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Episode 5 The Dice Discussion thread(spoiler)
Give us your opinion on the Dice
Fermi Post # 1 | Saturday, 29 Jan 2011 - 23:33
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We start the discussion thread early.
the Dice will air on Monday 9 PM
here is a sneak peek

Tracey Jarrod, a young intellectual masquerading as Dice, comes to Palm City seeking revenge on Chess
for her father's death. Meanwhile, Chess as Peter Fleming and the ARK Corporation plan to reveal a
special device, inspired by Jarrod and stolen from her father, which could change Palm City. The Cape
is forced to help his archenemy upon realizing that to take Chess down he has to keep him alive.
Ruvi, Raia, and Max help Vince master new skills as he fights to accept how his choices affect his wife
and son.

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chrisdvanne_ Post # 31 | Saturday, 05 Feb 2011 - 19:24
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Another comic book reference you might have missed :
Dices's attempt to Peter Fleming's life at the restaurant should remind everyone of the complicated mousetraps from old "Tom&Jerry" cartoons.
In "Designs on Jerry" (1953) cartoon showed below, Tom build the "perfect " mousetrap, a Rube Golberg machine (see below) designed to catch Jerry

Click at 5:00 for the mousetrap

Quote (Wikipedia)
A Rube Goldberg machine or device is a deliberately over-engineered machine that performs a very simple task in a very complex fashion, usually including a chain reaction. The expression is named after American cartoonist and inventor Rube Goldberg.

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chrisdvanne_ Post # 32 | Sunday, 06 Feb 2011 - 17:01
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One more reference.
The premise of "Dice" is exactly the same as the one from Smallville season 2 episode 21 "Accelerate : A youg girl's father and the villain of the story (Peter Fleming/Lionel Luthor) use her as a lab rat and keep her in a little girl's room-look-alike laboratory. In both shows, the girl has superpowers ("sees the future" for The Cape/hyper-speed, telekinesis for Smallville) but also sociopath tendencies.

More, when Vince and Orwell are looking at surveillance video records , Orwell says about Dice's ability to be invisible to the guards : "It's like she walks between the rain drops"
Well, here is a clip from the same Smallville episode to see what it means...literally :

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Message edited by michelangelo - Monday, 07 Feb 2011, 01:20
Granite Post # 33 | Sunday, 06 Feb 2011 - 21:09
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Such "similarities" is not happy with ... Imperfection of scenarios - are obvious - (((

" It's just an object. It doesn't mean what you think... "

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chrisdvanne_ Post # 34 | Monday, 07 Feb 2011 - 02:09
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@Granite : there is two different things :
1) the comic book references i highlight, like the Rube Golberg machine, are obviously Tom Wheeler paying homage to cartoons and cannot qualify as copying.

2) similarities in situations, editing, plot ideas are very common in tv or movie industry; almost every shows are doing this and it's very hard to prove plagiarism.

I try to point the most obvious similarities only and to back-up what i'm saying without extrapolating too much.

Concerning Dice's ability to see the future, i can think to at least two other movies ot tv show with similar situations :
In the movie Groundhog Day (1993), Bill Murray uses his knowledge of events to come in order to rob a cash escort truck; he knows where the guards will look at a given moment, just like Dice when entering the count room of the casino.
In the episode of Dark Angel "Brainiac" s02.ep10, an Manticore-engineered military strategist, called Brain can calculate the future thanks to mathematics just like Dice. More, just before he get caught by the police he said "it's too late, they're here" and let them take him because he knew the police would come.

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These situations looks very similar to some situations on "Dice" but it's hard to tell if it's lazyness from the writers or just basics to the scifi genre. I don't care as long as it's well directed and has good dialogs.
Anyway nobody notice this similarities, except me of course.

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Message edited by michelangelo - Monday, 07 Feb 2011, 11:34 Forum » Filmography » The Cape » Episode 5 The Dice Discussion thread(spoiler)
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